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Transgender Trope #9- My Vaginoplasty is the Same as a Vagina

June 20, 2011

OK now this is some seriously sad-ass shit.

Variation:

“My penis is a Neo-Clit”

“I have a functioning clitoris and am capable of multiple orgasm.”

“ I have a vagina. As the cells in the human body undergo complete replacement over seven years, there is not a single cell in my body that was ever part of a penis. I have a perfectly good vagina as do all post-women with a transsexual history.”

“The female external genitalia (the Vulva) is composed of many major and minor anatomical structures, including the labia majora, mons pubis, labia minora, clitoris, bulb of vestibule, vulval vestibule, greater and lesser vestibular glands, and the opening of the vagina. I have all of these.”

“I have a vagina that receives annual gynocological examination and PAP smears. It is virtually indistinguishable from any other vagina (verified and confirmed by at least a half-dozen medical experts over the years). I can normally accept penetration by the erect penis of a normal average male (7 to 8 inches in length, an inch and a half to three quarters of an inch in girth).”

This is where it gets really really sad. Guys, this is where your entitlement runs out. You think it would be really hot to be female. You’d be even better at it than most females, who don’t even appreciate their privilege of how hot they are. Think of how much more you would work it, girl. Women have it so good, they are treated as harmless colorful trifles, having doors opened to them and getting free dinners. And all that hetero dick everywhere you look for the taking! Or that hot lesbian sex like in the pornos! All you can eat! A pink cloud of gossip and make-up and sensuality and fashion. Being a female is hot. And fun. It’s a privilege you deserve. Other men, learned, medical men have provided a means for you to achieve your goal. And other men, those who have traveled this path before you (and those closeted crossdressers who sympathize) have mapped out a legal path for you to achieve your entitlement! Hell it’s on the public dollar depending on what country you live in. Given the same priority (or higher) than cancer treatment. The world is your (autogynephillic) oyster bro! Go for it! Live the fantasy reality. Inhabit female. Own it. It’s yours to own. You own “female”. You own “woman” to do with as you wish. You own it baby!

EXCEPT. Except for those actual goddamn females. The ones whose vaginal organs exist. Actual organs, not sheaths of skin created as penile fuckholes, not granulating inverted-penile cavities created to serve as masturbation holes for clueless women-hating men who would stick their dick in a sheep’s cunt if it was available and warm. Not an oozing wound dripping foul smelling bowel juice and requiring eternal dilation to prevent from healing closed. Not a flesh tube held in place by internal scar tissue. Not a surgical cavity causing chronic bladder infection and incontinence in more than 50% of purchasers. It may come as some surprise to you fellows but vaginas are actually organs, not just dick-insertion holes! And your “neo-vag” might be hidden inside you, in the space between your rectum and your prostate gland (funny how none of you feel “dysphoric” about keeping that) but if you could see it – it looks as close to a real vag as these “neo-penises” look to real dicks (trigger warning: YUCK)

You may want to do this to yourself in pursuit of your fantasies (which have NOTHING to do with actual females, btw. You’ll be QUITE SHOCKED to find out how females are treated -of course you will assume such treatment is due to your male entitlement being challenged since you just know females have it SO great!) but hey guys:

>THIS< has NOTHING to do with a vagina.

85 Comments leave one →
  1. FAB Libber aka Dave the Squirrel permalink
    June 20, 2011 11:03 am

    The world is your (autogynephillic) oyster bro!
    Pure twanzphobic gold.

  2. jilla permalink
    June 20, 2011 11:43 am

    (verified and confirmed by at least a half-dozen medical experts over the years).

    Hahahhahaa.. Hah. Good one.

  3. June 20, 2011 1:58 pm

    “inverted-penile cavities created to serve as masturbation holes for clueless women-hating men who would stick their dick in a sheep’s cunt if it was available and warm” :)

    But on a serious note, I think this is a really important, often over-looked point. Women spend their lives trying to be seen as *other* than fuck-holes and to be seen as human, to express our humanity to men.
    Teh tranz turn up and *want* to be identified as fuck-holes.

    But YES, only women-hating men would get it into their heads that a vagina is something that’s there to ram an erect male member into. Those type of men are the worst fucks ever.

  4. KatieS permalink
    June 20, 2011 2:17 pm

    Good one, GM! Some things I never heard and cannot imagine. This item was new to me:

    “ I have a vagina. As the cells in the human body undergo complete replacement over seven years, there is not a single cell in my body that was ever part of a penis. I have a perfectly good vagina as do all post-women with a transsexual history.”

    Except the brain cells, which may grow some new connections, but are not mostly replaced by turnover. So, is gender in your brain, or not?

  5. June 20, 2011 2:50 pm

    Indeed, funny how they don’t feel dysphoric about keeping that prostate gland. Are they sure transitioning and their “dysphoia” isn’t based simply on what they can see and not, in fact, their actual anatomy? I mean, most men will have that pesky Y chromosome, so why do they FEEL like women when they surgically alter their body when they are, in fact, really no different than they were before? Because, you know what, after 7 years those “new” cells in their “neo-vaginas” are still penis cells. All they’ve done is relocate them so they can’t see them.

    I guess a person’s sex, like realty, is all about location, location, location.

    • Loup-loup garou permalink
      June 20, 2011 9:52 pm

      @pmsrhino. There goes the neighborhood…

  6. Asian Honky permalink
    June 21, 2011 11:06 am

    Geez GallusMag

    You make oozing wound dripping foul smelling bowel juice sound so, so un-sexay.

  7. June 21, 2011 10:37 pm

    Brilliant, Gallus! Thank you for this. It’s just all sci-fi nightmare creepy zombie movie material, isn’t it? See a female impersonator out in the world, and no one would ever think they are a woman. Everything about them screams out “very ugly prick,” whether made up ridiculous or trying to look like a real Lesbian (very rare.) And no matter what the male surgeons do, that brain! Why do their male brains continue to be more nastily, selfishly, horribly male than many other men? Why do they seem to be the worst of the lot?

    You just said it all so poetically, monstrously beautifully.

    They will never get it in a million years. And those among them who claim to be Lesbians, will never be with a real Lesbian, by definition, in a million years.

    I just want all other women to recognize the truth. If they shrieked, pouted, tantrumed, demanded, and threatened about us not accepting (and adoring, which is really what they want, narcissistic drag queens that they are) them if they insisted they were birds or lizards, would they still get such massive support?

    It is ALL about females being so undervalued and very few take our identity, reality, and essence seriously.

  8. Tiffany permalink
    August 4, 2011 9:23 pm

    I come in peace… and mean no harm.

    As a pre transitioning transsexual woman… I realize I will draw the ire of many on here and that’s fine I can take it.

    I simply want to understand why there seems to be such strong anti trans sentiments, all we want to do is be ourselves.

    When I was a teen I would quite literally cry myself to sleep every night because I knew I was trapped with a female brain and a male body. I came so close over the years to ending it all, getting to the point on a couple occasions of having in one hand strong painkillers and in the other hand a strong beer with more strong beer right in front of me in case of need.

    The only choice I had was to being a transition, which I’m finally doing this year at 31 or eventually get so depressed and hopeless that I killed myself. (truth be told the only thing that stopped me over the years was a love for my family and not wanting to put my father through another suicide.. as his brother killed himself in 1985)

    I know I’ll never be a woman in any of your eyes, does it hurt…. you bet it does, though in the end have to focus on my own life and my own happiness.

    I wish you all nothing but the best in life, though it’s my sincere hope that some of you will come across and perhaps even become friends with a trans person at some point… in the process learning that we aren’t some boogeyman… but simply people who were born with a birth defect of sorts.

    • August 5, 2011 4:32 am

      Your comment is an act of aggression. You despise and hate female humans. This malevolence is evidenced by your stated belief that there is a female “essence” that is tied to women because of our dimorphic reproductive sexual function. This philosophy, that you have dedicated your life to, is the foundation of male supremacy and the subsequent oppression and gynocide of females worldwide. Therefore you have dedicated your life to hurting women. And then you come here pleading some sob story to garner sympathy for your hatred from the people that you hate. What about all the women who are killed because of your philosophy? Where is your sympathy for them? Where is your respect for women? And you call being female a birth defect.
      You’re not a boogyman. You’re a male supremacist acting out your hatred of women, and demanding our acquiescence to your minstrelized display. You won’t get that here. Leave women alone.

      • Tiffany permalink
        August 5, 2011 6:20 am

        Act of aggression? I don’t see how I was aggressive at all.

        As for a sob story, make of it what you wish… was simply illustrating my life up to this point in time. I have no hatred whatsoever toward females…. I have no hatred toward anyone for that matter. You however seem to have a lot of hatred toward anyone who’s different from you.. but again that’s okay I can take it.

        I’ve not dedicated my life toward anything other than being myself plain and simple, my sole intention in this case was to simply understand where you’re coming from. I knew going into my transition that there would be many who wouldn’t be accepting…. such is life. Thankfully I have a great support system of family and friends and that’s all I need.

        I’m not sure what you’re alluding to when talking about women being killed for my “philosophy” I wouldn’t hurt a fly it’s not my nature to hurt anyone. I do however have sympathy for anyone who gets killed unjustly, female or male and I don’t not respect women at all.

        You read something that wasn’t there with the birth defect comment.. my birth defect was having a body and mind that didn’t align.

        I’m not a male supremacist in the least, as my friends would gladly tell you.

        Regardless it’s clear that you’re going to twist anything I say and make it into something that’s clearly not there. I’m sincerely sorry for simply trying to understand where you were coming from.

      • Jaslyn permalink
        October 26, 2012 6:08 am

        You really do show a lot of hatred. So where you educated in oppressive ‘wild west’ or privelidged in the Amazon?. Philosophy might be a good study so you can recognize how you contradict yourself when considering the groups you reference broadly asserting your views as godlike. ‘Knit-picking’ on one individual’s comments sure reveals a readiness to bomb someone with a treatise on how ‘men and women’ inevitably becomes an issue of ‘US vs THEM’. You give the male assholes fodder for chauvinism while inciting hatred toward the thought of someone privileging a ‘perception of the feminate’ in a way that isn’t experientially identical to your illusion/delusion.

      • December 15, 2012 6:34 am

        “You give the male assholes fodder for chauvinism while inciting hatred toward the thought of someone privileging a ‘perception of the feminate’”

        OK dude. Women cause sexism. Keep jerking off.

    • September 7, 2011 3:51 am

      Tiffany,

      I will choose to believe what you say. Please know that some of us do know many transfolks in real life–I do.

      It’s not about not liking people who “are different” from us. An enormous amount of female energy has been diverted to protecting the rights of transitioners, not unlike how lesbians rushed to take care of gay men during the AIDS crisis. Gay men never repaid us for this.
      Putting out an analysis is very different than hating individuals. When females are terribly unhappy with their body–and yes, on the verge of suicide, or have actually attempted suicide–we are not told it’s okay to starve, cut, binge and purge, or what have you. We are put in therapy.

      If radical feminists, after all our attempts to de-condition ourselves from our socialization as females, are still unable to do so, how can we expect anyone else to do so?

      I hope with your time on Earth you will explore what radical feminism has to say, including wrt gender. I would sum it up as “gender is what gender does”; it’s rape, battery, sexual assault, prostitution, having your voice count one half as much as a man’s, having sexual objectification of your body all around with no escape….I could go on.

      Nothing more to say,, except that if you truly want to know where women are coming from, read as much as you can. Think it over. Journal. And don’t assume we’re haters.

    • oldgirl33 permalink
      October 6, 2011 8:12 am

      Hi Tiffany,
      I’m new to this blog and I just stumbled upon your comment. I think the anonymity of the internet tends to bring out the vitriol in some people, but I thought since you were curious, I’d explain my point of view.
      I’m a biological female. I guess that makes me a woman. But I don’t understand what you mean when you say you have a female mind trapped in a male body. I believe your distress about it is very real. However, I have never considered myself to have a ‘female mind.’ I think that if I had been born with a male body but the same ‘soul,’ if you will, then I’d be just as happy living as a guy. What does having a female mind mean to you? Does it mean that you like wearing makeup or dresses? I don’t feel that those experiences are central to my female-ness. I do both, sometimes, when I want to get male attention. However, it’s a burden to me that these things seem to be expected of me quite often, especially in a professional environment.
      I know that people who identify as trans face a lot of discrimination, and I am loath to use the word ‘easy’ in describing your life experiences, but: I am deeply offended that transgender people seem to think that becoming a woman is as easy as shaving your legs, putting on some makeup, and walking around in a skirt. If you want to do that, I think you absolutely should be free to do so without fear of harassment. But that doesn’t mean you get to call yourself a woman. You were not socialized as female growing up, which means that you never received those messages that train females to believe that putting themselves second is their moral obligation. You never had to deal with the confusion and shame of a blood stain on the back of your shorts, or the way *everyone* treated you differently when you began budding breasts. You never heard a car full of boys yell “I bet your pussy stinks!” for no other reason than you were a women walking alone in public, and they thought it would be fun to scare, insult, and sexually humiliate you. I’m sure you’ve encountered different kinds of shame, humiliation, and harassment in your life, but those particular experiences have nothing to do with actually being female in a patriarchal world.
      I think these blogs and others like it are pointing out that transgendered people’s insistence on the right to be able to choose their gender could somehow threaten the way laws in this country treat different genders, and that is where the “you are killing women” stuff comes from. I’m not sure, though; this line of argument is pretty new to me.
      I believe you are just trying to be yourself. However, most likely you suffer from a body dysmorphic order, similar to what people with eating disorders have, which causes them to look at their skeletal bodies and see nothing but ‘disgusting’ fat. Although I haven’t heard of too many people dying in the process of switching genders, I think that encouraging this body dysmorphia isn’t doing the people who suffer from it any favors. I don’t know what effective treatment would look like, but I don’t think continuing with the delusion is healthy either.
      I don’t harbor any hate or ill will towards you, Tiffany, and I hope you find the peace you are seeking. I just am not sure you will find it by trying to pretend you are not a male.

      • Bilbo permalink
        August 27, 2012 9:54 pm

        I’m a biological male. I guess that makes me a man. Thank you for saying what I’ve been thinking so much better than I could.

      • Susan permalink
        September 12, 2012 4:59 am

        Sorry, but female and male brains are as different as their sex organs, and there is a lot of scientific evidence out there illustrating that transsexuals have brain anatomy that resembles the opposite sex. this is especially true for female to male transsexuals. It’s not surprising, considering the range of intersex conditions out there…

        What would you call a baby with AIS, born with a vagina, clitoris, no uterus, undeveloped testicles where ovaries would normally be, and an XY chromosomal makeup? Would you deny her a female identity, and deride her vagina as a non-organ/fuckhole? She will never menstrate. Does that mean she’s not a real woman?

        What would you call a human being with an XXY makeup? Though the world sees them as male, they are almost always infertile, with testicles the size of almonds, a hair-free body, breast development, wide hips and narrow shoulders. What if one of these people FEEL female? Do they not have a right?

        None of you know for certain that human beings aren’t pre-programmed to function as males or females. Perhaps male to female transsexuals come out of the womb predisposed to emulate the customs and behaviors of their mothers, sisters and the women they see in the community. Maybe their genitals do feel foreign to them. Many report feelings of Dysphoria long before puberty hits and they consider anything “hot”. Maybe they understand female socialization better than other males because they pay close attention, vicariously.

        No one here can say for certain that transsexual people do not suffer from a real intersex condition, one which you will never understand until you’ve lived with it.

      • September 12, 2012 10:42 am

        @Susan-

        Sorry, but female and male brains are not as separate as our reproductive organs. There is no evidence that brains or kidneys or spleens cause sexism.

        “What would you call a baby with AIS…[blah blah blah] “

        Males with Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome are male. Why on earth would I “call them” something other than what they are?

        “Would you deny her a female identity” Sex is not an “identity”. Sex is biology, not a consumer choice. Sex is immutable and provable. Sex cannot be changed.

        “What would you call a human being with an XXY makeup? Though the world sees them as male, they are almost always infertile..”

        Males are male. Males born with “testicles the size of almonds” etc as you state are still male. How offensive for you to imply otherwise!

        “Perhaps male to female transsexuals come out of the womb predisposed to emulate the customs and behaviors of their mothers, sisters and the women they see in the community.”

        Although males like yourself sexually fetishize the oppression of reproductively female humans and inflict strict role and behavioral constraints on us -those oppressions are not of our choosing, nor are they innate. Men like yourself enforce said customs and behaviors upon women under threat of (and infliction of) violence.
        No one is born performing behaviors that require violent enforcement from men like yourself to be sustained. Innate behaviors require no violent enforcement.

        “Maybe they understand female socialization better than other males because they pay close attention, vicariously.”

        Certainly they do. Vicarious male gaze upon female “objects” is the hallmark of male power.

        “No one here can say for certain that transsexual people do not suffer from a real intersex condition, one which you will never understand until you’ve lived with it.”
        No one can say for certain that Christ is not the Lord, or that the tooth fairy doesn’t exist. Like other faith-based believers, you distain those who disbelieve. It is not well enough that disbelivers leave you to your faith, but that we MUST ALSO BELIIEVE. If not, we are infidels. Diversity is anathema to the faithful. Conformity and compliance is all. Why is that? It’s called “self-sell” and it’s what believers do to reinforce and buffer their faith-based beliefs through continual testimonial and evangelism. It isn’t ENOUGH that YOU believe what you do, you must enforce your beliefs on others. Without this practice, your belief falters.

      • Bilbo permalink
        September 12, 2012 4:44 pm

        @Susan

        No, female and male brains are not as different as their sex organs. I’m not sure how anyone could make that kind of claim with a straight face.

        A baby with AIS? I’d call it a baby with AIS. She or he might not be able to have a baby, but it seems a reasonable guess that, having a vagina, she’d be raised and socialized as a girl and woman. Sorry, but tossing out edge cases like this doesn’t justify the po-mo appropriation of femaleness anymore than an albino baby born to black parents justifies thosewho claim to be transethnic.

        What does it mean to “FEEL female?” You’d need to define that before I can tell you what it’d mean if someone born as an XXY claimed to “FEEL female.” Again, this is an irrelevant edge case- genuinely intersex people make up a small minority of the trans community. By all appearances, the fact of their existence is erased by constant trans appropriation.

        No, we don’t know for certain “that human beings aren’t pre-programmed to function as males or females.” Playing the card of radical skepticism doesn’t win you anything- none of us know for certain that fairies and trolls don’t live at the bottom of wells, and none of us know for certain that trans women aren’t just misogynistic fetishists. But that doesn’t mean that the opposite can be taken as truth.

        There are children who report feelings of depression or the desire to commit suicide. Does that mean that they’re biologically predisposed to self-hate, and should be supported in their transition to death? It’s easy to misunderstand that analogy, I agree. My point is that feelings of dysphoria, depression, and other psychological problems have underlying causes which should be treated compassion, not followed blindly as an internal reflection of the way things really should be.

        No one here can say for certain that transsexual people do not suffer from a real intersex condition, one which you will never understand until you’ve lived with it.

      • Susan permalink
        September 13, 2012 6:34 pm

        It’s funny, both of you want so badly to draw a bright line between males and females, and to draw that line based on genes and genitals. You seem to want to keep the definition of “woman” or “womanhood” pure and free of dilution. In reality, that bright line doesn’t exist. There are countless factors that contribute to maleness and femaleness.

        Chromosomes are usually a good indicator, but as several intersex conditions illustrate, the line between male and female genetics is not a clean one. Hormones are another common indicator, and result in highly variable albeit recognizable male and female phenotypes. Still, intersex conditions like CAIS or 5-alpha reductase show us that this developmental system isn’t PERFECT. If the definition of woman or womanhood is that flawed and subjective, how do you choose who to protect it from?

        Like it or not, there is sexual dimorphism in the brain. Male brains are larger, female brains smaller (but with higher gray matter values). Males have a larger BsCT region in the hypothalamus, women a smaller. Women have a more robust corpus collosum than men, and thus, use a wider range of their brain to produce speech and solve problems. This explains why women are more likely to weather a stroke with skills intact. Men have more gray matter, women more white matter. Here’s an article if you don’t want to take my word for it: http://www.webmd.com/balance/features/how-male-female-brains-differ

        Most transsexual people experience a very similar onset of gender dysphoria, usually before puberty, and lasting a lifetime if not treated (a similar etiology). A common etiology denotes legitimacy. There are also many studies out there proving that transsexual men and women have brain structures more commonly seen in the opposite sex… throughout the brain. Presumably, this is what causes one to “feel” like a man or “feel” like a woman. It’s not a mystery. When a child shares nearly every social and psychological trait in common with the opposite sex, how could they identify with their assigned sex? You can’t imagine how that feels, because you enjoy the privilege of alignment, and you take it for granted. What’s funny too, is that some of the traits you have that you attribute to female socialization might just be inborn and hard-wired… and it’s difficult to tell which are which.

        Although some of you have suggested getting “mental health” treatment, you also deride the one and nly treatment with any efficacy… gender transition. It has an incredibly high success rate, one of the highest in the field of mental health. HRT tends to ciphon out the autogynephiles, because a man cannot continue to enjoy his fetish if he has no libido and no ability to maintain an erection. The reality of womanhood hits these people like a ton of bricks, and hopefully, they back away from transition before it’s too late.

        Here’s some food for thought:

        I’ve been blind from birth. I hear people describe women as “hot” or “sexy”, but I’ve never actually SEEN a woman. If my Gender Dysphoria came on long before puberty, and if I have no real concept of what a beautiful woman is supposed to look like, how can this be as image-driven as this post suggests?

        I am an attorney who helps members of the LGBT community with family law issues (partnerships, custody, hospital visitation, adoptions, wills and estates, etc). I spend most of my time in pantsuits, wear very little makeup, and am generally a hard-working straightforward person. Although I love the ability to wear skirts with my suits on occassion, as well as the open collars, I am not preoccupied with women’s fashion. I’m a jeans and t-shirt kind of person when not at work. How am I perpetrating myths, patriarchy, and trying to out-do women exactly?

        I have a lesbian partner, and we have two biological daughters from sperm I saved pre-transition. We have a satisfying physical and emotional relationship, and have a lot of fun. I’m not depressed or suicidal. I paid for my own transition. I love living without what feels like a foreign object dangling between my legs. I harbor no fantasies about the difference between my private bits and those of most biological women. Still, my life is good, and my body feels comfortable enough now to get me through. How am I hurting anyone? Why should I have kept my penis around? Why do YOU want me to have one?

        Since I now understand that this blog is not grounded in reality, but rather, cheap and mean-spirited therapy for women who feel they are, at the very least, superior to transsexuals. Good for you! By pounding on a politically powerless, defenseless and poorly-understood minority, you have taken back a sliver of dignity back from the evil patriarchy (which consequently, is threatened by MTF transsexuals). You ignore legitimate scientific evidence in favor of the fantasy that the hormonal and genetic differences between men and women have absolutely no effect on the brain. You do this because you’re terrified of scientific evidence that denotes some kind of inferiority in women. At the same time, you’re living out a purity (eugenics) fantasy every bit as flawed as that attributed to race.

        I’m going to take my leave now. Have a good life, and please, learn to focus on important issues in the future.

      • September 14, 2012 7:04 am

        @Susan- Don’t tell women what to do. Don’t tell us what to focus on. We will decide what are important issues for us.

        “When a child shares nearly every social and psychological trait in common with the opposite sex, how could they identify with their assigned sex? You can’t imagine how that feels, because you enjoy the privilege of alignment, and you take it for granted. ”

        Ugh. Gross. Offensive to women.

      • September 14, 2012 7:07 am

        @Susan- the “Brain Jender” stuff is crap. Read Cordelia Fine’s “Delusions of Gender”:

        http://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2012/08/13/3615/

  9. August 5, 2011 7:19 am

    Hahy- Mah name is Tiffany Marie. I am a male who believes that females act like, and think like, and feel like ——, ——, and ——– . And since ah feel like ——, ——, and ——-, ah think ah must be won of youze. Ah must be “mentally female”. Because females arent just people, they are beings with distinctly different —–, ——- and —– charchteristics. And if a female doesn’t have —– , ——–, and ——– qualitees, why they must be “male mentalitied”. And ah cam e here because ahm so veray veray intrested in what you are saying. Not so interested to actually read any of it, mind you, but interested enough to ask you to explain it all to me without me actually reading any of it or investing any effort at all. Ah thought i’d write to you personally so you can explain it all to me in a few words or less. But if you take the time to do so, Ah will not botha to aktually consider or thank about anythang you said. Aym so glad you R hear to serve me in this way. Because aktually understanding what radikul feminists are saying is not on mah agenda. If it was, I would look into it for mahself, woodn’t Ah??? Ahm sinceerly sorry for genuinely trying to understand where you are coming from without actually making any effort to doo so.

  10. The Masked Lily permalink
    September 13, 2011 12:32 am

    “neo clit” is such a grotesque and ignorant concept

    and they want us lesbians to let them fuck us with it. because they see it as a neo clit.

    hmm. Once again male imagination trumps female reality (only in their view of course..)

    this is making me so sick..

  11. Nicky permalink
    October 9, 2011 1:22 am

    What do you think of Intersex people and those who are born with an Intersex condition. Do biological women have an understanding of intersex people and can they separate the two from Trans people.

    • yerb permalink
      October 18, 2011 9:35 am

      Hi Nicky,

      I absolutely distinguish between someone born intersex, vs. someone claiming to be “trans”: distinctly born and raised as male or female, then claiming to be the other.

      Regarding what I think of intersex people, I think it is probably incredibly challenging, though I don’t know much about the experience. I think the notion that there are only two biological sexes is not only false, but oppressive to intersex people. I look forward to the day that all intersex people can be “out” as intersex, and be fully accepted as the unique individuals they biologically are.

      What I dislike about people claiming they are “trans,” and particularly men who claim they are women, is that it is not only claiming to be something that they are not, biologically, but they are claiming to have had the socialization of being female, which they have not, and having had the experience of being oppressed as girls and women, which they have not. Unless someone is perceived and raised from birth onward as female, no man can understand what that experience can be.

      In the case of intersex people, and the complexity of their situations growing up in a society that expects them to either be and identify as either male or female, I support an intersex person doing accepting their biology, and doing what they need to do to be happy and be able to deal with the society’s inaccurate and oppressive beliefs about there only being two biological sexes.

      In the case of people who claim to be trans, they need to study feminism and question how their loyalty to the patriarchal belief that sex “roles” are biologically, innately male or female has led them to believe that they are somehow the other sex “born into the wrong body.” They need to stop believing and perpetuating the sex role stereotypes, and instead, challenge and help put an end to those stereotypes and oppressive roles. People who realize these oppressive sex roles don’t fit them are in the best position to challenge and end those stereotypes, and should not be upholding and perpetuating them.

      • Nicky permalink
        October 19, 2011 1:14 pm

        Thanks, because I know being born intersex is very rough on me and I know i had the roughest time of my life.

    • October 18, 2011 12:40 pm

      Nicky, you are basically asking the same crowd the same question that you asked on my blog.

    • radicalwoman permalink
      June 22, 2012 2:22 am

      Well, I think the trans crowd has done their best to confuse everyone about the two groups.

    • Jen permalink
      April 25, 2014 2:57 am

      “Do biological women have an understanding of intersex people and can they separate the two from Trans people.”

      Do biological women have an understanding of intersex people? You do realize that “biological women” encompasses half the population, don’t you?

  12. yerb permalink
    October 18, 2011 9:09 am

    Wow, I just found your site. THANK YOU SO MUCH, Gallus! You’re terrific. I thought the woman-hating trans group and their equally delusional, unquestioning, “feel sorry for anyone who claims they are treated unfairly” allies had managed to censor everyone who disagreed with them.

    Please, are there any other sites out in the world challenging trans-lunacy besides yours?

    Are the articles once posted on the brilliant site, Questioning Transgender, still available on the net?

    **
    Your second reply to “Tiffany” was especially brilliant. Bravo. You hit it right on the money. He so deeply wants to “understand,” but hasn’t read a damn thing to make any effort to do so.

    Thank you for pointing out the minstrelizing.

    Hey, Tiffany, before you post your sob story about your woman-hating delusions again here or elsewhere, buy a copy of Marilyn Frye’s book, “The Politics of Reality,” and read it cover to cover.

    Buy a copy of Gloria Steinem’s book, “Outrageous Acts and Everyday Rebellions” and read it cover to cover.

    Read Sheila Jeffries.

    Read Audre Lorde, “Sister Outsider.”

    Read “Woman and Nature,” by Susan Griffin.

    Read Gloria Anzaldua, Adrienne Rich, Angela Davis, bell hooks, Mary Daly, Robin Morgan, Sonia Johnson, Phyllis Chesler, Shulamith Firestone, Angela Dworkin, Susan Brownmiller. Cover to cover.

    Read these to find out even 0.01% of what it is like to ACTUALLY be female, vs. whatever you think our experiences or feelings are.

    By assuming you know what being female is, you are simply acting out your male privilege. You are proving that you are an oppressor, a hater, a belittler of women.

    It is the ultimate hypocrisy for trans to say they are oppressed, when in fact it is they who are the oppressors: of women.

    Go to a psychologist and work out your delusions there, instead of being so arrogant, presumptive and rude as to assume you are or know anything about being female.

  13. October 18, 2011 12:41 pm

    And I happened to view the PDF this time around… mmm, convincing vulva? not!

  14. November 2, 2011 1:21 am

    This blog post has made so much clear for me that I was not questioning before. I am so glad that I’ve found these radical fem blogs. I’m actually starting to feel better about my own body and thank goddess for that. I know that might seem like a strange reaction, but there’s lots of context for it that is too long to explain. I guess I feel affirmed as a woman that my uterus and vagina do not exist for men, but for myself, and they do not exist to be falsified through surgery so a man can live out a fetish. I’m young and new to this.

  15. trevor permalink
    November 19, 2011 8:55 am

    hi my name is trevor and i have been thinking about this decision since i was 5 and im 13 now, but i really believe i truly am a women inside a mans body i feel being a man isjust like standing in the deep depths of one large hell hole even the sense of having masculine hormones makes me want to cry, it is like enduring poison with no immunity it sucks shit. so my point is i know that i am most definetely ready for the transition and IT WILL BE WORTH THE WAIT!

    • December 12, 2011 8:40 pm

      ” i have been thinking about this decision since i was 5 and im 13 now”

      Wait what?? You are thinking about taking hormones and multilating your body since you were 5?? What 5 year old knows about transition (but not about the consequences)??
      It screams trans troll.

      You are 13 and you consider yourself as a man? Ah yeah and all people have masculine hormones. You can’t change this.

      ” it is like enduring poison with no immunity”

      That “poison” is keeping you healthy and alive. You have no idea what happens to your organs if you mess with the hormone levels.

      “so my point is i know that i am most definetely ready for the transition and IT WILL BE WORTH THE WAIT!

      Yeah of course because store bought genitals and a phantom penis are so much fun.
      The cluelessness it burns.

      Either you are really a deluded boy or just a trans troll.

  16. Nicky permalink
    November 20, 2011 5:10 am

    Ya should take a look at this and this should interest you in why transgender do the strangest things to get what they want

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/transgender-woman-arrested-injecting-fix-a-flat-patient-rear-article-1.980273

  17. Former Slave permalink
    February 8, 2012 2:22 am

    I’m friends with a number of MTFs and I’ve had to patiently and gently explain to them any number of times that what is happening to them, as they begin to pass for female, is not “transphobia” but the way women are treated on a day to day basis. Often they have difficulty believing me. “But I was just minding my own business walking down the street reading a book and they YELLED at me! From their VAN!” “They GLARED at me at the store, they must have realized I am trans!” “They were RUDE to me!” It often takes me some time to realize what the problem is, because it is unclear to me that anyone can expect to be treated better, then I get a glimpse of how men are treated all the time, simply for being men. MTFs lose that as they begin to be seen as female, and it’s like a slap in the face.

    • bananayz permalink
      March 20, 2012 12:01 pm

      You have to understand though, when you’re not used to being looked at and you’re trying to do something that a lot of men would probably like to beat you up over… it can cross your mind that they must have noticed you’re trans.

      But I totally believe you, as said in an earlier post I was never ever expecting sunshine and roses, lolly pops.. or whatever other nice things you can list. I notice people looking at me all the time, although as soon as I look back they look away thinking I didn’t notice…

      • March 21, 2012 9:07 am

        You have to understand though, when the people look away that is part of your male privilege. If you were female they would not look away. Their eyes would fix on you unflinchingly and follow you without courtesy of “looking away”. What you experience as a gender-nonconforming male transgender is a tiny measure of what real females experience mixed in with a huge dose of male privilege. There is no courtesy “looking away” for those of the female sex.
        And dude, I deleted your other 11 comments, all of which ignored and man’splained to females how our experiences are “wrong”.

  18. Sage permalink
    March 5, 2012 12:53 pm

    Some excellent points on this page. I think I know how a “female brain” works and feel I relate to that way of thinking more, therefore I consider myself female trapped inside a male? Poor me for being trapped inside this pesky man body! Waaa

    I work with a MTF – wish I’d thought to research it earlier. That panel of images and the PDF – my gosh! If they’re indicative of post op-norm it’s revolting. Most definitely not vagina’s just outright butchery.

    Former Slave’s response makes total sense. I can fathom where the over-developed entitlement and narcissism come from, along with the perception that they get treated differently because they’re trans. The one I work with gets treated differently because they’re completely useless >_< Pity the self-awareness diminishes as the entitlement and narcissism escalate, if it were ever there to begin with.

    I am continually subjected to the need for them to assert their perceived success as a woman – superficial successes such as "he looked at my legs because I'm tall and hot". The more I think about the absolute crap and feminist bashing I've heard over the last 12 months the more annoyed I'm getting.

    And the way other women get tricked into caretaking these people is also offensive. Poor trans them? No. Not poor them.

    • fmnst permalink
      March 6, 2012 5:01 am

      Hi Sage,
      Great comments, sorry you’re having to put up with that stuff at work!

      What panels are you writing about here? Are there some photos on GenderTrender showing post-op?
      Thank you.

      • March 7, 2012 10:49 pm

        Sage is referring to the photo links embedded in this post.

  19. April 21, 2012 10:36 am

    Do Transexuals know that a clitoris is not just a small piece of sensitive skin near the vagina? I guess not. A clitoris is an organ that has nerves extending down in to the tops of the legs. The bit of the skin you actually see has been likened to the tip of an iceberg. I have never read about any surgery that even tries to replicate a clitoris accurately. So no, not only do you not have a real clitoris, you don’t have anything that even imitates one accurarely.

    • Sage permalink
      April 22, 2012 1:07 am

      So what you’re saying is women are priviledged to have a clitoris, because it’s what a transgender person wants but will never really have, therefore they will never be what they truly desire in other people’s eyes. Another reason for the transgender to loathe women? Because they think women don’t understand what it’s like to be them. Women don’t know what it’s like to be marginalised, discriminated against, and all that other stuff…

  20. Sage permalink
    April 22, 2012 1:31 am

    I find the transgender person I work with particularly toxic and yet there is so much protection for them. And absolutely none for anyone else who might need to be protected from the small minded and hypocritical opinions or behaviour they exihibit.

    For example it’s not OK to discriminate against a transgender person in case they kill themselves (the sucide risk is conveniently and frequently highlighted as a risk). However it’s perfectly ok for the transgender person to make comments about people of seemingly lesser functioning being retarded and to slight conditions such as autism.

    My respect for anyone like this will continue to diminish until their own behaviour changes to match their super strict rules for discrimination against their own kind.

  21. July 30, 2012 4:05 am

    I’m going to try to spell this out for all of you. And I’m going to try to not get super pissed off as I write this. Because the stuff I read on here has got me pretty darn angry. Because I want to go all torret syndrome right now. Why we feel like we are in the wrong body; Because and you won’t know this, because you havn’t dealt with it ever in youe cis gender lives, that having a body feel so freaken gross to you that you just want to, cut it up, throw it off a bridge, destroy it. No matter what you do, having masses of testostorone doing shit to you’re body, is DISGUSTING! But you don’t know about that do you? No you don’t. How do you know you have a female brain, you wouldn’t unless there is a massive contrast, that slaps you in the face, the absolute insanity of it all. How do you know you have a female brain, because guys don’t sit around talk about shit like this.

    • Sage permalink
      July 31, 2012 5:57 am

      You’re kidding, right troll? Never dealt with having a body that feels gross? I laugh in jest at your ludicrous statements. Every time a woman engages with the world, either directly or virtually, she is told by every communication medium possible, bombarded visuallly, verbally and subconsciously, re what the ideal female body is (read ideal female).

      And I’m picking, (just by what I see around me mind, not performing rocket science or going out of my way to cite any research) that as a result of this women feel gross. A lot. Some might even feel they’re in the wrong body, on the wrong planet, every moment of every single day. Others have hormones so mucked up that people label them ‘psychotic’. You may have noticed that all this has been going on for some time, it’s not a recent thing.

      Your argument is irrelevant and offensive. Why should people empathise with trans or the trans cause, when you’re clearly so incapable of empathy yourselves? Do you seriously not fathom that the arguments you use are things women have been dealing with since time began? You can’t be that thick, surely.

  22. Angie permalink
    August 9, 2012 10:21 am

    I was born with a penis but by the time I was 13 I started to develop breasts, I hid them for years but eventually my parents found out. I was so ashamed I ran away from home at 16. I’m now 50 I dress in women’s clothes so I don’t have to explain myself to people.
    I don’t normally read or even respond to stuff I see on the internet but the sheer arrogance of many of the opinions expressed here makes me want to speak out.
    You are so sure of what it means to be male or female and the importance and relevance of the “right” genitals but the truth is you know very little about people of ambiguous gender.
    You make cruel and sweeping generalisations about transgendered people. Its uncalled for and mean.
    I hope maybe one or two of you will read this and pause to question:
    Is it really necessary to be so cruel? or
    Are the opinions you espouse, so confidently, really well thought out and well considered conclusions or are they just opinions?
    Because a wise person once said opinions are like armpits, everyone has at least two and generally speaking they both stink.

    • August 17, 2012 8:31 pm

      Men with gynecomastia should dress like “laydees” to “disguise themselves”? What a lying sack of shit you are. Gross.

  23. Susan permalink
    September 14, 2012 5:21 am

    Looking back at the blog post, I do have to agree that it’s annoying to hear claims that the vagina of a Transwoman is the same as that of a natal female… especially when the story involves a gynecologist. If these stories are true, It really illustrates the notion that female genitilia are seen (even by some gynos) as the absence of a penis- as a simple hole- rather than the amazing organs they are.

    Some surgical results are pretty good on the outside, but are by no means indistinguishable from a natural vagina. A neoclit is fashioned from the head of the penis, which is analogous and similar, but due to the lower nerve density, not nearly as sensitive. All of the internal parts are missing. The labia minora are far less complex and sensitive. A neo-vagina IS just a rough approximation. Any Transwoman that is honest with herself knows that, and DOES wish that she had just been born female with the full compliment of physical and social experiences to match her gender identity. Most really don’t like having to keep the prostate gland, and would love to have the ability to menstrate and give birth.

    That said, I’d prefer my neo-vag over the old penis and testicles any day. No regrets. Although I do not labor under the fantasy that I have a “real” vagina, I do not miss walking around with a hot dog looking thing and two egg-like balls dangling from my croth all day, every day… pumping unwanted testosterone into my body. All that T can drive a person insane. The years between puberty and HRT were a hell of aggressive inclinations, the inability to feel anything but anger, constant and unpredictable erections, and a kind of desensitization to my physical and emotional environment.

    Since rearranging all that, I feel much more calm. My body is more free and ergonomic than before. I FEEL my physical environment now… hot and cold, the weight of things, textures. It’s easier to feel a broad range of emotion. It’s easier to think. It’s easier to control when I’m aroused. In short, life is a hell of a lot better.

    I love my neo-vag, or inverted penis, or whatever you want to call it. My Lesbian partner likes it better than a penis too. Who cares what I have between my legs? Get over it!

    • Sarah H. permalink
      September 18, 2012 11:10 am

      A comment laudable for its honesty and bravery.

    • Cancer permalink
      September 20, 2012 8:08 am

      “Who cares what I have between my legs? Get over it!”

      If it’s no big deal, why the need to change what’s there? Why didn’t you “get over it” by keeping your cock?

      “Any Transwoman that is honest with herself knows that, and DOES wish that she had just been born female with the full compliment of physical and social experiences to match her gender identity.”

      Awww, poor sausages. It must be so hard for them, not having what they want.

  24. MissTress permalink
    November 30, 2012 6:42 pm

    As a strong independent female I am ashamed of this place and people like you. Here this place is touting your rights as a female who have been in the past oppressed and now bullying another group who is just as oppressed. You are everything wrong with being a feminist. Coming up with very half cocked very misinformed ideas about them without reading any actual studies or scientific reports that shows what you speak of here is not only laughable but one of the most vile misanthropic angry bile I have seen on the internet that gives all feminists a bad name. You not only are socially defunct but you are also apparently unaware of anything physiological. Unaware that our tissues are actually the same when formed and chemical processes just mold the reproductive organs out of the same tissues. This is a very advanced processes of chemical process that is delicate and can create many changes that are yet to fully be understood by science. Many studies have shown that not only sexual assignment but hormonal gender assignment happens in genetics to utero. You are a bunch of idiots and am glad you are being posted all over the web as a joke and more of novelty gag than any TS/TV will ever be.

    • December 15, 2012 6:37 am

      Laydee Brainz. Yah. Good luck with that “sister”. Keep jerkin off.

      • Cancer permalink
        December 16, 2012 12:46 am

        MissTress: As a strong independent female (TM) I am ashamed of people like YOU. People who:

        – Make sweeping judgments and rash generalisations without stopping to think or research facts.
        – Use abusive language and tactics to get their point across (which is to say no point, because you’re not arguing facts but attacking the author, ala Ad Hominem – refer link number 2 below).
        – Argue with irrelevance and lack of logic.

        People who click the Post Comment button not realising they are in fact a fucking hypocrite – “Coming up with very half cocked very misinformed ideas about them without reading any actual studies or scientific reports that shows what you speak of here.” (To give just one example.)

        >_<

        I suggest familiarising yourself with the following:

        Link 1. http://www.ourcivilisation.com/smartboard/shop/jepsonrw/index.htm
        (in particular, chapter 2: http://www.ourcivilisation.com/smartboard/shop/jepsonrw/chap2.htm)

        And:

        Link 2. http://www.vanderbilt.edu/writing/resources/Identifying%20Illogical%20Arguments.pdf

        Not one of the posters claiming how full of shit/evil/wrong this page is, has brought a sound and logical argument to the debate. "You're wrong wah wah wah" doesn't qualify.

  25. Shorp permalink
    December 1, 2012 9:07 am

    A lot of people in these comments keep bringing up how trans-people haven’t grown up as women, haven’t socialized as women, they haven’t been oppressed as women.
    I’ve never been oppressed as a woman — does that mean I’m not one?

  26. haryadi permalink
    December 8, 2012 2:49 am

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  27. January 20, 2013 10:02 am

    The vagina you were born with will NEVER make up for the soul you were born without. You think it’s about entitlement? You fucking dolt, it’s BRAIN STRUCTURE. I wish someone would pump you full of testosterone to see how compatible you are with it, if brain structure doesn’t matter. You are disgusting enough to deserve that pain

  28. hadenough permalink
    February 16, 2013 12:27 am

    To the trans who think their condition is due to brain structure – brain studies are important, but there aren’t enough reliable ones available at present. Plus, the samples are too small. If you really want to help understanding transgenderism, call for more neuroscientific studies so that everybody gains more knowledge long-term. And while we’re at it, here’s another thing some of you need to realise: when decent, competent professionals are able to work with boys with GID – presumably like you once were – they do tend to find that they have been poorly parented. Quite often their mothers didn’t want a boy, or they had previously lost a girl child (maybe they didn’t get the chance to grieve that baby properly). Also, the same professionals often find the fathers aren’t exactly very supportive in bringing up children with the mother (plenty of women know all about that!).

    Here’s the thing that needs saying: hardly any of us remember what it was like to be babies or toddlers – so people who were maltreated during that time *can’t tell* if their sense of ‘being born in the wrong body’ is due to nature or nurture. Children’s brains are more plastic than adult brains, but when children have such poor parenting as some of these children have, it’s no wonder their brains start to become different and ‘freeze’ the defence mechanisms developed in a difficult environment – but they don’t become ‘female brains’. They’re not like normal male brains either. My impression from the scientific papers is that they’re more like the brains of people with other psychiatric disorders. (This surely makes sense of the fact that lots of male-born trans have other mental health problems.) That’s why I say, drop your attacks on women and campaign for more and better brain studies on people with problems like yours. We would all benefit from those.

    • March 3, 2013 6:03 am

      The “problem” of transgenderism all seems to stem form your end, hadenough.

    • Lisa permalink
      March 5, 2013 3:05 am

      A lot of what you wrote makes sense, but I wonder why it matters? Even if boys (what about girls and intersex people, btw?) are growing up to be transwomen because they were poorly parented, does it matter? Is that such a terrible thing to be? Who is it hurting? Is the penis so sacred that a relatively small handful of them can’t be mutilated and destroyed forever? We don’t have a population problem, nor do we have a shortage of asshole, testosterone-fueled male-identified dudes out there raping and pillaging our society on a daily basis. Why not let a couple of those blokes take estrogen and get castrated?

      • March 5, 2013 3:20 am

        The more castrated men the better. No one care what you dudes do to your dicks. Our concern is the impact your activities have on the lives of women and girls.

  29. March 3, 2013 5:59 am

    Wow, the hate towards transgenders on this site is palpable — and so misinformed! Please, if you’re going to tear shreds of a whole minority, at least educate yourselves about your targets.

  30. Lisa permalink
    March 5, 2013 2:58 am

    I’m trans, and I have to admit, you have very accurately described a lot of the weird claims and common tropes I’ve encountered in this community. I’ve stopped going to trans-groups, mainly because I’m tired of hearing this kind of stuff (claims that neo-vaginas are the same, claims of intersex conditions, sexual weirdness).

    I’ve tried to be honest with myself regarding how and why I ended up where I am, and it comes down to simply hating men and appreciating/loving the women in my life. I was sexually assaulted by a teenage boy as a child, I was physically and mentally abused by my father. My uncles were drunken losers. I was constantly beat up by boys at school. In contrast, I felt safe and secure with my female relatives. Nearly all of the women in my life were heroes, however unsung. I felt safe, secure, and inspired in their care, and I longed to emulate them as I grew into adulthood. Add to that the fact that the sight of my own body was a source of rape-retraumatization, and I was all too happy to leave the male gender, and toss a good chunk of my old penis in the biohazard waste bin.

    What I have now resembles a vagina from the outside, but in every other way is not a vagina. I don’t care though. I love my body, and I love being in a long-term committed relationship with a woman who likes it too. I love that we share feminist values, and are raising our children in a decent environment. And I am a few degrees closer to understanding what it’s like to walk in my partner’s shoes, physically and socially. I appreciate that resonance so much. I’m glad I live in an age where I have the choice to be the kind of person I need to be, rather than having a body and role permanently thrust upon me by accident of birth.

  31. May 1, 2013 8:08 pm

    So much anti-trans sentiment.
    Anyways, as a pre-op Trans-woman, I recognize I will never be a woman; at most trans woman. neovagina the same as a real vagina? laughable. The shape, tissue type, length, nerves, flexibility, lubrication is completely different, not to mention the rest of the system isn’t there. I’m wishing and hoping for the day scientists can change my Y’s to X’s and lab-grow organs to take the place of what I feel doesn’t belong, but of course this realistically will never happen.

    I look up to women. they constantly have deal with all the objectification, monthly cycles, unwanted attention and oppression of their representation in society, and it amazes me how they hold it together. growing up under a strong willed mother who headed my household taught me that physically and mentally, women may not seem strong to the average male’s perception, but they are incredibly so. My mother, dealing with enormous financial, emotional, and physical stress just keep rolling up her sleeves and plowing through it all. If anything, rather than animosity towards females I have a bias against men (probably colored due to the fact that my father’s a useless, cheating, unreliable slob).

    about what you learn when you’re growing up: it’s all based on what you’re taught. as a child, I’d always be taught/conditioned to put myself second, aim for what’s best for the people I care about rather than myself. most boys around my age got taught “you’re our baby. now here, have a nintendo and a playstation. don’t forget you’re #1″ most boys around my age also didn’t grow up in a house of two very strong and independent females.

    Anyways, I’m not actually sure this contributed anything to this page at all, but feel free to leave hate, leave responses, leave whatever. Just please write in full sentences and with correct spelling.

    • SusanVie permalink
      July 5, 2013 2:55 am

      I grew up in a similar situation, with a strong mother, strong aunts, a wonderful grandmother and a whole lot of useless men. I helped my mother hold it all together, starting from the age of eleven all the way through my early twenties, while my father enjoyed a string of affairs and eventually left us to fend for ourselves. I cooked a cleaned and cared for my two young sisters while my mother worked. I often wonder if my negative experiences with men caused me to reject my own maleness. I couldn’t see the good in men, and still have a hard time doing so. Whatever the case, it was unbelievably satisfying to leave maleness behind, to take hormones, and to undergo surgery. I was never really perceived as a boy or a man anyway, for whatever reason. Even if my “neo-vagina” falls short of the average genetic woman, I don’t really care. I like it, my female partner likes it, and I am happy with the body I live in and see in the mirror. I feel happy and outgoing. I am less of a girls-girl than my partner, which suits me just fine as a lawyer. I am happy I get to make a difference in the lives of women like my mother, who are being tortured by an ex who has left them in financial straits, who is fighting for custody, is stalking them, has physically assaulted them, or is causing trouble in a variety of other ways. Life is satisfying as a woman, or as a faux-woman, as a facsimile, as a man with breasts and a mutilated crotch, or whatever else other people choose to believe about me.

  32. Emily permalink
    June 28, 2013 8:07 pm

    I’m a pre-everything transgirl who’s been living full-time, as a woman, since I was twelve. I am now fourteen. Even before then, I was always regarded as a freak. Just about everybody hated me, anyway, and me transitioning into a female role would only make that worse. I understood that fact; Woman are definitely more oppressed in certain situations whether people realize it or not. With my family’s situations, I don’t believe I’ve ever had any privileges, other than those of a proper education. But proper education is available to any other member of my family – every member has had top marks in school their entire life, male and female. So how is that male privilege?

    I’ve never been very sporty, I’ve always been quite mellow, honestly. I remember being made fun of when I was a toddler because I always laid on the grass and read while other boys and girls would play football. Yes, boys and girls would join eachother in sports – our park was only a patch of grass with lines on it, so there wasn’t enough space for two things to go on. Because of this, I haven’t had much developement in my muscles. I’m actually weak to the point that I’ve only beat four people at arm-wrestling my entire life. So is my ‘strength’ male privilege?

    Many people in my family (I have no cousins, but I have second and third ones) have been raped and murdered. Fun fact, only three of them were female. I lived in a ghetto, so murder and back-alley sex were extremely common. Even my uncle was raped… wait for it… by a woman! What?! No way! A cisgendered female commiting violence against a male because he didn’t want to have sex with her? That’s impossible. Maybe the AIDS she gave him killed him years later because he felt it was his male privilege to deny sex.

    I believe that I do look like a cisgendered female, and when I do start hormones, I’ll stay that way. I’ve been objectified in general public places by men, but also by lesbian – or possibly bi-sexual woman, of course. It’s not always men doing the harassing, you know? Do I like it? Well, it’s nice to feel pretty, to be honest. But do I dress in such a way to get these responses? No, I’m actually quite conservative – I wear beige sweaters, jeans, and never wear high-heels. I finally got my ears pierced in December, I mean, come on! I don’t even have a boyfriend, but I don’t need one or know if I want one. I DO NOT leave the comfort of my home to be objectified.

    I have never sexually fetishized female body parts, in fact, I think I’m grossed out by them. I’m actually still debating whether or not I want a oozing wound dripping foul-smelling bowel juice. But, hmm, I guess that somehow, in some roundabout way, I do, because you repeatedly say I do. You know, that’s totally how facts work.

    Yeah, I know that ANYBODY can throw on a dress and heels and say that they’re a woman. And I definitely don’t believe in the gender binary – that if you like dresses and heels you’re a woman. Hell, I know a post-operative transwoman who’s a mechanic. But there are steps that a person has to take in order to get hormone replacement therapy or any cross-sexual surgeries, steps that can involve years of therapy and physical requirements.

    I just thought of a great metaphor… A ciswoman likes cars, so she’ll fix them and ask to be respected while doing it, right? So why can’t a transwoman call herself a woman – not a female, and ask to be respected in her decision?

    • SusanVie permalink
      July 5, 2013 3:07 am

      Google the “male privilege checklist” to better understand what kind of privilege you enjoyed as a child, and what privileges you have lost as a passing trans girl. There are definitely differences in socialization, but if you become aware of those differences, you’ll be more sensitive to the experiences of the female friends and partners you may have in your life. Good luck with everything!

  33. VALI GIL permalink
    July 15, 2013 7:39 pm

    Now I feel sleepy and wish to stay a stud.
    Genesis 1:13 ‘And God saw that everything he made was good’.

  34. Kevin Christiansen permalink
    October 9, 2013 4:02 am

    As a straight man, reading that made me horny.

  35. Tori permalink
    February 10, 2014 10:28 pm

    Wow, there is so much ignorant bullshit being spewed in this article, I don’t know where to begin. First, I suppose, I’ll start with your presupposition that transexuals are posers. Maybe you haven’t actually done the medical research behind transexualism, but real scientists with lab coats and instruments of observation have. Crazy, right? Anyway, the human central nervous system consists of two main components; “white” and “grey” matter. White matter consists mostly of glial cells and myelinated axons that transmit signals from one region of the cerebrum to another and between the cerebrum and lower brain centers. Grey matter is composed of neurons. A third colored component found in the brain that appears darker due to higher levels of melanin in dopaminergic neurons than its nearby areas is the substantia nigra. White matter is more prominent in biologically born females than biologically born males. Interestingly enough, one study confirmed that levels of white matter in male to female transexuals was found to be higher than that of their hetero-male peers: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20032-transsexual-differences-caught-on-brain-scan.html. The “AR” Gene (Androgen Receptor Genes), also known as NR3C4 (nuclear receptor subfamily 3, group C, member 4), is a type of nuclear receptor that is activated by binding of either of the androgenic hormones testosterone or dihydrotestosterone in the cytoplasm and then translocating into the nucleus. The androgen receptor is most closely related to the progesterone receptor, and progestins in higher dosages can block the androgen receptor. In another study, it was found that the AR Gene in male-to-female transexuals is longer than their hetero-male peers: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18962445/ and http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3402034/.

    It might come as a surprise to you, but I have wanted to be a mother since the age of 6. I want more than just vaginoplasty and I find it unfortunate that a uterine transplants is not a viable option.
    http://www.secondtype.info/pregnant.htm. I do not feel like I have the right to “own” woman, whatever the hell that means. I am a woman. Now, I was lead to believe one of the “tenets,” (so to speak) of feminism is that women are more than their genitals. Your vagina does not sum up your existence. So, why are you trying to sum up my existence by what is (or isn’t) between my legs?

    You are correct with your inference that vaginoplasty will not make me a woman in the reproductive sense of the term. So, let me ask you this: should I define a woman by her reproductive capabilities? What about intersexed women who are inherently incapable of reproduction? Should a woman who has gone through menopause be placed under this notion as well?

    I don’t know what transexuals you know, but I am very well aware women are not treated as equal to men. “Missrepresentation” is a wonderful documentary that delves into the injustices and discrimination against women. There is nothing glorified about being harassed pby men after transition, the possibility of being raped, opinions being dismissed just because of gender or more focus and emphasis being placed on what you are wearing than the work you are doing. This doesn’t even include the bigotry and hate shown toward those who identify as transexual.
    Justice is rarely brought to cases such as Brandon Teena’s, where even reporting was faulty, referring to him as “her,” a lesbian, when he clearly identified as a straight male. The HIV Prevention Justice Newsletter reports “Nationally, transgender women represented 40 percent of the 30 reported hate murders against the LGBTQ community in 2011, the most recent data available from the National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs. In the same year, LGBTQ people of color represented 80 percent of the people killed in hate murders.” (http://www.preventionjustice.org/transgender-killings-reflect-deeper-injustice/) Judges barely blink an eye at these cases and the investigations into the murders are not fully completed unless there are eyewitnesses. GayStarNews reports “Many cases are not investigated properly by he authorities,” (http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/78-trans-murders-2013-mutilation-common170513#sthash.1ug2EPbj.dpuf) but I would replace the word “many” with “most.” And why aren’t these cases investigated any further? It’s rather simple; the murderer killed a freak. Justice has already been done. The victim deserved, even asked for it. More heartwrenching cases are recorded here http://www.tgeu.org/node/53 and here http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unlawfully_killed_transgender_people. I fight for feminism because women are people (what a radical notion) and because transwomen have even less rights than the LGB community or biologically-born females. Before I get backlash for that statement, allow me to put it this way: biologically-born females and any member of the LGB community are allowed to use the restroom of their identified gender without fear of being beaten within an inch of their life or labeled a “pervert” on the basis that they are “in the wrong restroom.” I have literally had a man ask me why I would “want” to be the “inferior gender.” On top of this, it is harder for a married transwoman to adopt than it is for a married, biologically-born female. We are looked upon as a sort of “second-type woman” and outcastes for not being “one of us.” Janet Mock words what I am trying to convey beautifully in this article: http://janetmock.com/2012/03/28/Jenna-talackova-transgender-miss-universe-girlslikeus/. So, why would I “want” this? I don’t. For you to think anybody does, or wishes this upon themselves is idiotic. To make light of other people’s serious struggle is so completely ignorant. Do your fucking research.

    • April 25, 2014 4:06 am

      You are a man. You seek out Gender Critical sites and type out long, time consuming arguments because you believe doing so will help solidify your fragile and easily shattered sex-role identity fantasies. It is called “self sell”: http://jimlefkowitz.com/self-sell/ . You were not born with a disorder of sexual development. You are just a regular autogynephile. Lifetime transvestic fetishists eventually desire limerance with the object of their sexual desires: themselves, as “female”. Heterosexual men are not more oppressed than women and gays. Teena Brandon was an adult lesbian who disguised herself as a young boy in order to have sex with unwilling teenage girls. She was a predator. Men do all sorts of things in pursuit of their sexual gratification. They will design their entire life tangent and career around such pursuits. You are no different.

    • jdmarsh89 permalink
      June 21, 2014 4:21 pm

      You can always tell when a man is posting because it’s super long-winded and starts with something like “wow” or “you’re so full of shit” and ends with something like “do your research” or “you ignorant bigot”, as if women who question the rigid gender binary status quo are somehow ignorant or just haven’t read enough stuff. Questioning established social rituals is not something ignorant people do. Just because a man fetishizes and enjoys aping the trappings and ritualized submission displays associated with being female in our culture, does not mean he has the lived experience of being historically marginalized for biological reality in the same way that women and girls have been and continue to be all over the world. To deny that biological sex is real is to deny the continued suffering of women and girls everywhere. Men are not and shall not be the arbiters of what is and is not female. The reality and horror of being born female in a patriarchal world continues. It’s not cute or fun. Womanhood is not a suit you can just put on for your own sexual gratification. You might have the luxury of your existence not being defined by what’s between your legs, but the unfortunate fact is that women and girls are every day. Biological sex IS reality. Gender is a social construct. You mention women who have gone through menopause as a reality that somehow props up transgender politics. It doesn’t. Women who have gone through menopause have a lived history of being a woman. Presumably, though their menses have ceased, they have had the experience of menstruation. Menopause is a process that all biological women go through. It protects an aging woman from the bodily stress of having a child. It does not cause them to stop being women. It is just another biological reality that women are often made to feel ashamed of. In fact, aging women are often pressured to take artificial hormones to mask this normal process and continue the appearance of fertility (my mother just recently got into a heated argument with her GYN over her “silly” refusal to take hormones). This is because women’s fertility (or perceived fertility) is seen as their only purpose. Once they are past their “expiration date” they are seen as being worth less socially. Women with damaged uteruses, intersex women, etc. do not negate the experience of the majority of the population and these women are often stigmatized by a culture that values women for their reproductive capabilities exclusively. The last thing we need is a male, free of all the unfortunate aspects of being female, declaring his “right” to be a woman. As a woman with exclusive insight into the condition, I find this appropriation of women’s suffering to be offensive.

  36. Rhonda permalink
    February 13, 2014 8:46 am

    I was reading claims about how they taste/smell the same, and then saw this study. It pretty much said the fake vagina has butt bacteria and bv bacteria. No way that is going to smell good. Not sure if I’m allowed to post links, but it’s related to #9, so I thought it would be interesting. http://7thspace.com/headlines/309701/microflora_of_the_penile_skin_lined_neovagina_of_transsexual_women.html

  37. vincent n permalink
    July 30, 2014 11:53 pm

    to Rhonda the word is neo not fake vagina. both types of vaginas neo and cis can have BV and butt bacteria. how many different bacteria are in a cis vagina. lots.

    to Tori’s post. there is no mention of the male DNA that is present in mtf (male to female) transsexuals. no mention of female DNA because you won’t find any.
    Intersex woman are a different story and need to be treated with great deference
    A study done at the Swedish brain institute states the area of gray matter in a MTF TS is
    greater than that of a genetic male.
    and that a female brain has less gray matter and more white matter than both types of male brains. no wonder so many mtf ts are rocket scientists and do other highfalutin jobs. gray matter is where intelligence originates
    there are other slight differences in the 2 male brains.
    however in mtf ts the amount of white matter is somewhere in between that of a genetic male and a genetic female. but it doesn’t mean you have female brain. genetic female = the only people to have a female brain or maybe an occasional weirdo
    other research about androgen receptors find no difference in a male and a male TS
    So does this mean everyone who is a transsexual that realize there is something different about themselves or is a crossdresser run out and get a vaginoplasty of course not.
    a vaginoplasty and a vulvaplasty( if that’s even a word )is not even close to that of a functioning cis vagina . They call it mutilation for a reason and it is dysfunctional.
    They give a false sense of optimism to transsexuals making them believe that a vaginoplasty or a sex change, if you will, will make their miserable male lives so much better. and to some it does. but to others it’s awful.
    The problem with transsexuals is not physical it a problem generated in the mind and it is not their fault.

  38. Tammy permalink
    August 11, 2014 6:27 pm

    I found these 2 quotes from a blog in the comments from m2t lol. They just made me laugh

    quote # 1 “it ….WAS….FANTASTIC…..just,,,,,, SO NEAT,,,,, the whole of my surgery. pain can i discribe what it would be like haveing my baby , no & nore can i use words to discribe what i went through . other than to say its the whole of who i am as a person. & as a woman. its just knowing inside”

    ^^^Seriously he described his neo vag surgery like having a baby lol. How entitled can you be?
    I’m a biological woman, I’ve never had a kid and I wouldn’t dare describe anything as having a kid/. I’ve never had one and that would be disrespectful to my grandmother who had 12 kids naturally and at home.

    Wow just wow!

    Here is quote # 2 “There are a lot of related issues: I want to look good in clothes with no bulge. I want to have sex as a woman. I don’t want someone to put their hand down there and be surprised. I want to feel like a woman when I am naked. I guess I can sum it up to say that I want the whole female/womanhood experience, not just part of it. No excuses. No qualifications. I want as much femininity as is possible, and I can’t think of any reason why I, or any of us, shouldn’t have it.”

    ^^^^ yeah cos me and my biological female friends sit around talking about how much we can’t wait to be penetrated lol. These dudes have no idea what it means to be a woman and that’s okay cos they are dudes, now fuck off.

  39. August 25, 2014 2:13 am

    Im hot !!

    Sino jn ang Gustong magpa kantot sakin

  40. john permalink
    September 1, 2014 9:31 pm

    These dudes are so delusional that they don’t just think that their hole to nowhere is similar to a vagina but they actually think it’s better than one lol —>http://i.imgur.com/5s5IKNl.jpg?1

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